46th Street / Broadway ish Bars/Restaurants

Where would you suggest we go in the 46th St/Broadway area? We don%26#39;t mind walking a ways off the beaten path.

I see the 56th street recomendations but was wondering in our vicinity where we should try to get to if we have time. I was thinking of walking south and west and just seeing what we find.

Suggestions?

46th Street / Broadway ish Bars/Restaurants

For a restaurant; Le Madeleine 403 W 43 Street (9 Avenue).

www.lemadeleine.com

46th Street / Broadway ish Bars/Restaurants

Ninth Ave. in the Hell%26#39;s Kitchen area (W42nd to W57th Streets) has a lot of great restaurants - too many!!

Film Center Cafe (45th?) and the West Bank Cafe (42nd St.) are reliable, moderate and fun restaurants with nice bar areas. Lots of up and coming theatre people, working actors and stagehands go there. I also find West Bank to attract ';obscure TV stars who are making short run Broadway appearances.'; (Hey, isn%26#39;t he that guy from that TV show?!?! UGH, I can%26#39;t rememember his name!)

The directionally-challeneged-named Chelsea Bar and Grill is also good.

Check out menupages.com. You can search by neighborhood, read reviews and see the menus on screen.

West 40s:

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West 50s:

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Restaurant Row is 46th st. b/w 8th %26amp; 9th so only a block away. Here you%26#39;ll find Joe Allen (good basic American food, burgers, salads, chilli, meatloaf etc.). The Hourglass Tavern is pretty good. Several Italians, Becco known for their $21.95 all you can eat pasta dinner, Orso very good (need reservations way in advance), Lattanzi (my fav.) and Barbetta. John%26#39;s pizzeria is on 44th just west of Broadway. Virgil%26#39;s for bbq. Trattoria Trecolori is another good Italian on 44th st. Many of the restaurants we mention for pre and post theater are around 46th st.

If you want the complete opposite end of the spectrum from the respectable, clean and good places mentioned by nywhiz, check out one of New York City%26#39;s oldest dive bars:

Rudy%26#39;s Bar and Grill (and they use the term ';grill'; very loosely. It consists of a bar-top hot-dog carousel with a heat lamp.)

See reviews on newyork.citysearch.com, etc.

627 9th Ave

New York, NY 10036-3702

(212) 974-9169

Cross Street: Between 44th Street and 45th Street

Directions: A, C, E at 42nd St

or E, C at 50th Street/8th Ave.

The Scene

';Rudy%26#39;s is one of the last bars in Manhattan where suits, slackers and lifetime ne%26#39;er-do-wells commingle in a laid-back, beer-laden haze. It%26#39;s always loud and crowded, even when the backyard ';garden'; is open. And when you%26#39;re ready to date out of your comfy little social circle, slap on your sluttiest lipstick or your spiffiest blue jeans and head here. Chances are you%26#39;ll cozy up in one of Rudy%26#39;s little red banquettes with someone new before long. ';

The Draw

';Heated on one of those fast-food rotisseries and served with a plain white bun and a little mustard, the full-sized hot dogs are always free and always available--so long as ';the hot dog guy'; is behind the bar. The blackboard lists about 12 brews on tap, from Bud to Checker Cab Blonde Ale; Rudy%26#39;s Red, the house brew, is dirt cheap (under $3 a pint) but rather weak.';

also:

';Now that Hell%26#39;s Kitchen is becoming peppered with more and more pricey lounges, it%26#39;s reassuring to know that Rudy%26#39;s is still around to keep the neighborhood anchored in its once-grimy roots. This is a tried-and-true dive bar if there ever was one, complete with odd, drunken characters who stumble in off the street to drink dirt-cheap beer while ensconced in the comfort of torn, vinyl barstools and red, semicircular booths. Jazz and pop music permeate the space, which is unapologetically dank, dark and littered with trash. Hot dogs are served free of charge (and more than one barfly has been known to subsist on them.) There%26#39;s even an equally grubby courtyard out back filled with plastic lawn chairs, filthy card tables and overflowing ashtrays. Brilliant! So are the ongoing low prices and that large, mischievous pig statue that welcomes you at the door.';

Bring rubbing alcohol with you, and wash after going here.